In article <01bd4f7a$4df13620$5bb98dcc@blwczotz>, "larry" wrote: > I was looking for some good night vision equipment and searched the web and > found a site that explained the technology and had a pretty good selection > of equipment. > http://www.intersci.com/nvindex.htm That would be a nice place except that there are no prices. The specs on most of that equipment are variable too - one that I clicked on indicated the tube was a gen 2, or II+, or III. Gee, which one? Anyway, most people out here cannot afford gen III or gen II and wil be looking for a high resolution gen I+. I spent quit a bit of time looking around for nightvision, and hit all the major web pages too. I found a good link on Yahoo: http://www.yahoo.com/Business_and_Economy/Companies/Outdoors/Gear_and_Equipment/Binoculars/Night_Vision/ As far as affordability goes, the best deal I could find was the AMT Nightstar, but not as purchased from them directly. Heartland Americal resells them cheaper. (800-229-2901) This model has an IR lightsource on it, but the thing has a bright red glow, and would make a wonderful target during a night game. ($200, 30 day warrantee) It's the usual generic russian tube but in a new plastic and aluminum housing and is quite small. It's got a slide-on power switch though instead of the usual momentary push-down, so it can be accidentally left on easily. In search of a better illuminator, all I can say is "good luck". There are IR filters you can buy to put over your flashlight or spotlight, but they are usually quite expensive. (military surplus seems to be the best bet here) I found an IR spotlight for sale for $125, for instance. I'm waiting on an IR spotlight lens (mil surp) to arrive and see if its any good, I'll post up if it works well. Other places you can follow with that link above, sell "IR illuminators", which are basically an infrared LED with a focusing system. They cost anywhere from $50-175, but I can't expect one small LED to give any good illumination at any worthwhile range. As far as depth-perception goes, you'd need t get a true binocular set to keep that. Given the distortion produced by most (i.e. less than $2,000) scopes, I don't think that will help much anyway. True binocular scopes are over 2x as expensive of course. (they are basically just two NV units held together with a mounting bracket) Someone was also saying that most NV gear gives the same visibility as a fully acclimated eye. They are correct. That's why I'm looking for illuminators. The Nightstar is most sensitive to lower frequencies of IR, around 830nm by my unscientific tests involving purchase of 20 various IR LEDs. Providing yourself with a flashlight that no one else can use makes NV a very powerful edge indeed. Of course if someone else on the field has a REAL flashlight, and uses it "unexpectedly", you can fry a nice image of that flashlight into the phosphor of your NV and really get upset... My next challenge is finding a way to mound the NV on a spare set of goggles, or to the site rail, in such a way that the green display does not illuminate my face.